Cbox Theories Akai's Death 24th of May (#1) Shiho-sama: And with the force of the gunshot his body would be like pushed and his hands would definitely fall off the pockets 24 May 07, 09:24 motzKID!: which is unusual because he never makes mistakes like that 24 May 07, 09:24 motzKID!: -nods- if someone is about to be killed,why would he bother putting his hand in his pockts,right? or maybe Gosho just made a mistake in drawing that part 24 May 07, 09:23 motzKID!: oh yeah,and we all owe it to Knightus, who paid extra $ just to go to the Japanese bookstore before it closes^^ Domo Arigatou Gozaimasu! 24 May 07, 09:22 Shiho-sama: yeah, besides there is something unnatural in the way the body was when it was shot and was supposed to be dead, plus after the explosion his hands were still in his pocket which is not right motzKID!: *quick^^ 24 May 07, 09:20 motzKID!: I agree with queen misanagi..as I've said, Gosho is like a magician. He haands are quik and skilled. He always has the brightest idea.. 24 May 07, 09:20 queen misanagi: yeah gosho-sama can be so unpredictable. i agree with shiho-sama. she looked too calm... like i said, they probablyknew something like this was coming so they planned for it way back (in the hospital? 24 May 07, 09:19 Shiho-sama: XD Dc is really becoming more exciting XD oh yeah thanks Knightus XD 24 May 07, 09:18 KnightusMax: you're welcome ^__^ 24 May 07, 09:17 KnightusMax: Side note... I wonder what comes next. The end text says that the battle with the men in black continues... I don't think developments will be normal as we know it anymore 24 May 07, 09:17 Shiho-sama: plus look at REna's face XD she's like anticipating something 24 May 07, 09:16 Shiho-sama: Yeah he didn't die, I mean when you're shot at the head I don't think your hands would still be in the same place 24 May 07, 09:14 Shiho-sama: too bad holmes didn't end up with Irene Adler. =) Fog we people who can't read nihonggo can wait for the translations =) 24 May 07, 09:12 bookworm: *grovels gratefully at your feet* Congrats at making it so far! Thanks for all the hard work Knightus! 24 May 07, 09:10 Sherry: See the page 6.Akai din't die..Wedge of Steel so akai won't die 24 May 07, 09:05 Fog: how can I read? T____________T 24 May 07, 09:05 Fog: :( 24 May 07, 09:02 queen misanagi: oh yeah about holmes, even after ACD died, there were radio dramas about his adventures and some later stories were created by fans... there was this "episode" where SH met irene adler's daughter 24 May 07, 09:00 queen misanagi: but i bet gosho-sama already has a plan about akai... i don't think he's that kind of writer/mangaka who allows his fans to dictate his storyline 24 May 07, 08:56 Fog: Thank u! Thou i dunno Jpnese :( but cant wait to read them in English :( 24 May 07, 08:46 Shiho-sama: But even if I'm not a fan of DC I'm still a fan of holmes XD he's one of my idols haha =P... 24 May 07, 08:29 Nigayomogi: Did Takagi say that prints from Jodie, Conan, and the burned man were the only prints on the phone? 24 May 07, 08:16 motzKID!: Sir Arthur Conan Doyle must be pleased in his grave because thanks to Gosho's DC,he's partly famous among us! =) 24 May 07, 08:14 Methuselah: But that didn't happen thank to the choatic superfans. Perhaps that will happen to Gosho... <.< 24 May 07, 08:12 Alan: It should be noted that the SH novel that followed, 'the hound of the baskervilles', was merely a flashback to the past and the 'Great Hiatus' is a well-known enigma for SH fans. 24 May 07, 08:11 Alan: ....Because of the fanbase behind. And that's why he wrote 'the adventure of the final solution', in which he intended Holmes to go out with a bang, by dying with his nemesis, Moriarty. 24 May 07, 08:10 Alan: @Shiho-sama: partially. In fact, while he wanted to save more time for his historical novels, he felt greatly pressured by Sherlock Holmes, which he believed to take too much of his time... 24 May 07, 08:05 motzKID!: haha,desperate fans...XD 24 May 07, 08:04 Shiho-sama: lol haha Holmes was and still is very popular ehh XD but to look for a dead body that doesn't even exist haha cool 24 May 07, 08:03 motzKID!: Whoa! I didn't know that! Now,THAT'S what I call real fans! @.@ 24 May 07, 08:02 Shiho-sama: I thought the reason he Killed of Holmes was because he wanted to concentrate on his other novels 24 May 07, 08:02 Alan: And in the end, yeah, ACD was forced by his fans to resurrect Holmes, although, IIRC, Moriarty didn't follow the same treatment. I guess it was the historical start of fanbase-catering. XD 24 May 07, 08:01 Alan: Heck, when the novel went out, there were even hardcore fans who went to the Reichenbach Falls to search for Holmes' hypothetical corpse and bring it back. 24 May 07, 08:00 Alan: @motzKID: well, Arthur Conan Doyle did kill SH at the Reichenbach falls because he was becoming *jealous* of his own character, as there was quite a SH mania raging throughout the country. 24 May 07, 07:57 Shiho-sama: their theories makes sense, really !! 24 May 07, 07:57 Shiho-sama: I believe he's not dead, and yes the blood is unnatural in my opinion haha or maybe I'm just watching too much CSI haha 24 May 07, 07:54 motzKID!: b-but still,there's not enough proof that Akai's dead already,right? I mean,after reading cmilano's and zero's theories,it IS pocble he's still alive 24 May 07, 07:51 Shiho-sama: just finished looking at file 609 (cauz i can't ready it lol) haha all I can say is nice "death" =) 24 May 07, 07:49 giovannino: thanks for the file 609 24 May 07, 07:30 motzKID!: aw man,I'm think like an idiot again -hit head on the computer- 24 May 07, 07:30 motzKID!: *maybe 24 May 07, 07:30 motzKID!: @queen misanagi: mayeb by public demand, Akai would be revived,if ever he really dies,that is..*.* 24 May 07, 07:29 motzKID!: @queen misanagi: I know..but didn't Conan Doyle kill off Holmes and by public demand,he was revived again? 24 May 07, 07:27 queen misanagi: @ motzKID: like holmes? how? shinichi's supposed to be the holmes in this manga o.O 24 May 07, 07:25 queen misanagi: @ methuselah: i also noticed that. why does he still have hand in his pocket and he did fell most unnaturally.. and there may be something underneath that bonnet of his 24 May 07, 07:25 motzKID!: oooh...Akai's situation is like Holmes' =) 24 May 07, 07:22 queen misanagi: aaaw... that's really sweet of you, knightus. i'm still in school but i swear if i could help, i will... (i think akai lives but he won't reappear soon) 24 May 07, 07:14 Methuselah: I don't really care if he dies... It complicates things without him for Conan. Perhaps Akai will left a dying-message for him. 24 May 07, 07:08 zero: I didn't saw it cause it was with the older messages 24 May 07, 07:07 motzKID!: -nods- That's what I like about Gosho..he's so mysterious and always has the brightest idea. If ever he would retire,I would cry,really 24 May 07, 07:07 zero: @cmilano: you're theory is not bad either 24 May 07, 07:06 akemi: yeah~~~~~~ 24 May 07, 07:05 zero: yeah, he probaly would surprise everyone with the next few chapters 24 May 07, 07:04 Methuselah: It's funny that Akai was shot in the head, and his (seemingly or perhaps) corpse falls onto the seet with this hands to his pocket still keeping his cool. 24 May 07, 07:03 motzKID!: he's just like a magician...his hands are quick and skilled..@.@ 24 May 07, 07:02 motzKID!: he's one tricky manga artist.. 24 May 07, 07:02 motzKID!: ...but still..if ever yours or cmilano's theories are correct, we can't be too sure that Akai's still alive. That really depends on Gosho.. 24 May 07, 07:02 zero: THE FAKE DEAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 24 May 07, 07:01 zero: @motzKID!: thanks, you're theory is not so bad either, if whe combine our theory's it wil be probaly the truth behind the dead of akai 24 May 07, 07:01 L: He died easilly... I hope he didn't die... 24 May 07, 07:00 zero: s had a sad expression, it looks almost if it's smoe body else.................. of course it is................................... akai lives!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 24 May 07, 06:59 zero: the evidence is the face direction of akai, first it was side wards and then it was up wards, the second is the blood trace at his mouth and his facial expressence ( he died with a smile, but the corp 24 May 07, 06:59 motzKID!: @zero: hmm..good theory o.o 24 May 07, 06:57 zero: then she put the bomb at the backseat near the fake akai, so in the meantime the real akai could escape ( probaly he jumped in the car of rena ) 24 May 07, 06:56 zero: so the camera would not notice a thing and then she walked backwards to the back seat, where she showed the fake akai to gin 24 May 07, 06:55 zero: my theory is that in the back seat there was a nother body( a dead one pf course ), when akai fell down he fel at the front seat and when rina noticed the cops she turned her body at the police car 24 May 07, 06:43 007: at the end of the file, conan remarks that the cell phone's serial number changed (wich means that Jody have buyed him a new one and leave his at the police station as evidence proof ) 24 May 07, 06:39 cmilano: ohh boy seeing is believeing. i won't buy the death of akai. he's too good to fall for some petty cia's trap. im miserable and tired and im going to bed. 24 May 07, 06:32 akemi: ???go$ho i$ a real ma$ter mindO_o..... all we $ay for now are theorie $ but who know hat aoyama i thinking of ??!! 24 May 07, 06:29 motzKID!: @akemi: oooh,I get it =) hmm,somehow,it does.. 24 May 07, 06:27 Togbaito AIon: i still cant believe he got killed... i bet he REALLY got killed because he was bombed... 24 May 07, 06:26 akemi: what i mean i$ maybde if akai i$ really dead,go$ho want to replace him with kid 24 May 07, 06:25 Togbaito AIon: nooo. akai shuichi died.... i bet that was just a trick though.... how can kir just kill akai .... 24 May 07, 06:24 motzKID!: @akemi: what do u mean...? 24 May 07, 06:23 Kogoro-kun: I know it's unbelievable!! I still find it very... O_O wow... but... uf... And what will do Haibara??? She can't speak now with Akai! >__< 24 May 07, 06:23 motzKID!: b-but cmilano's theory sounds pretty reasonable,if u ask me..I'm speechless...@.@ 24 May 07, 06:23 akemi: did u notice that akai'$ death- if he i$ dead- line$ with the MK file and events although they are $eparate and unrelated 24 May 07, 06:21 Togbaito AIon: (*died) 24 May 07, 06:21 Togbaito AIon: No way ... DID AKAI dies 24 May 07, 06:18 motzKID!: I hope Gosho didn't really kill off Akai...we should barge into his office and demand to revive Akai -sounding stupid again- 24 May 07, 06:17 Kogoro-kun: But it's pretty obvious!!! There's a hole in Akai's head!!! (page 4)! 24 May 07, 06:16 rensyphon: I love you knightus! You're still my knight in shining armor. 24 May 07, 06:15 akemi: ye$ that$ it :D 24 May 07, 06:15 007: t r a p ;) 24 May 07, 06:14 akemi: >_< i mean atrap* 24 May 07, 06:14 akemi: a tarp* 24 May 07, 06:14 akemi: akai knew thi$ wa$ atrp he i$ not that $tupid to fall for it 24 May 07, 06:13 cmilano: the head, i'm not sure about this though... i might have been thinking too hard 24 May 07, 06:13 akemi: NekoHaruko.. i think $o too,it $eemed a$ if he i$ $itting up :D could it be...!!! and conan'$ look in thela$t page make$ me more curio$ to know what he realized??^o) 24 May 07, 06:12 Kogoro-kun: Thanks Knightus for your effort. In the other hand... Kir shot Akai in his head. He must be death... musn't he??? U_U 24 May 07, 06:11 cmilano: @viridian: i mean there should be bloodmarks of a body being push inwards as blood was coming out of his head (if she did push the body), but the blood puddle was neat when rena placed the bomb beside 24 May 07, 06:09 cmilano: @neko: yeah looks like so XD but it's just an optical illusion lol. 24 May 07, 06:08 b: @ Baka1412: By the way, why you named yourself Baka (jap. baka=engl. idiot)? 24 May 07, 06:07 cmilano: @kellika: the head is not shown right? cos it's blown up to pieces. they just assumed that it was akai's body from the outfit and the fingerprint that matches with the one on conan's phone 24 May 07, 06:07 007: @kellika : maybe the body of that person was too cold :D 24 May 07, 06:06 NekoHaruko: I might be just be seeing things. but on page 6 when Akai ison fire it looks like he is sitting up... 24 May 07, 06:03 b: @ Baka1412: But Rena turned her body away after she heard the sirenes and to talk to Gin... 24 May 07, 06:00 007: .. akai will be under it and could safely go to the back of the car. 24 May 07, 06:00 kellika: I have a question.. in the explosion's page, we can see Akai's jacket burning, but not his body.. what does it mean..?? 24 May 07, 06:00 007: the stain is not really a problem if the blanket could flip in a fraction of second so rena did'nt notice the exchange. the dead body was under the blanket and attached to it so when it flip akai ... 24 May 07, 05:59 Togbaito AIon: Your the best 24 May 07, 05:56 viridian: cmilano- what do you mean? if at 1st his head was near the side of the seat, push/pull the body into the car, the stain will be from under his body to his heads new position, right? 24 May 07, 05:49 Baka1412: akai is dead, end of the case.. do you all forget the spycam on rena necklace ? if anything suspicious, gin would have realize it 24 May 07, 05:48 cmilano: haha no way! the body was positioned neatly and can be seen on page 6 after explosion. this is actually a good sign cos if there's no sign = it's not real = akai is not dead. 24 May 07, 05:45 motzKID!: -this might sound stupid- maybe she just pushed his legs sideways,bending his body a little side-wards. err... 24 May 07, 05:42 cmilano: rena has to push the body deeper inside the car.. if this is the case, what's with the blood behind the body's head on page 6? it doesn't show any signs of *a body being pushed* 24 May 07, 05:41 Kate: There is no way that Shuichi would die that easily right ? The most thing I'm curious about is Conan's look in the last page 24 May 07, 05:40 cmilano: oh by the way there's one more thing that bothers me. akai fell on his back when he was shot. only the upper half of his body was leaning against the seat though.. to be able to close the door, 24 May 07, 05:39 viridian: and if his head was blown to pieces, theres /no way/ he could come back after that. It wasn't shown, so we can theorise, and it gives hope to us little fans 24 May 07, 05:37 cmilano: yeah he would. but he's content with the fact that he's dead. 24 May 07, 05:37 motzKID!: lolx! but I agree,Gin likes blood...well,I THINK he does... 24 May 07, 05:36 motzKID!: I can't imagine Akai's head in pieces...whoa! talk about uber violent XD 24 May 07, 05:34 viridian: I thought that was the whole point of this exercise 24 May 07, 05:34 viridian: no I wouldn't. but Gin would right?? 24 May 07, 05:33 cmilano: how mean! you'd rather see akai's head blown up to pieces by a single .9 mm bullet shot? 24 May 07, 05:32 viridian: nope...cmilano, I like your theory!! 24 May 07, 05:32 motzKID!: Yeah,I wish Gosho could see this cbox 24 May 07, 05:32 viridian: and then the next bodies head presumably _is_ in pieces 24 May 07, 05:31 cmilano: if that's the case.. blaah i'll accept it reluctantly. regardless i'm proud of myself with the theory i came up with. 24 May 07, 05:31 viridian: cont- ie its not in pieces which is what you might expect. 24 May 07, 05:30 viridian: oh I see. Agree completely that the bodies are different between the pages, but shouldn't they try to make them similar for the camera? b/c pg4 Akai is headshot but theres only blood behind it- 24 May 07, 05:29 motzKID!: b-but what if....what if Gosho killed off Akai...? 24 May 07, 05:28 motzKID!: hoorah! all our hopes are up! XD 24 May 07, 05:26 cmilano: it is just my theory though, if the police could not find bloodstain on the body's left hand, then AKAI IS ALIVE 24 May 07, 05:24 cmilano: @viridian: it is not intact. it's not even shown for cencorship purposes XD it woulda been so gory 24 May 07, 05:24 motzKID!: oh,now I get it! wow,cmilano's theories are amazing.. 24 May 07, 05:23 cmilano: page 6 body is not akai anymore. since the patrol call distraction and rena facing somewhere else the body has been switched. the missing blood at his mouth said it all. 24 May 07, 05:22 viridian: ahh thanks motz 24 May 07, 05:21 viridian: ...so why does the head look intact??? 24 May 07, 05:21 motzKID!: @viridian: both his hands were in his pocket..it was shown in page 6 ;-) 24 May 07, 05:20 cmilano: yeah the body's face was a mess, police officials could only use fingerprints to identify the body. for you guys who just joined, scroll down for more info! (check older messages too!) 24 May 07, 05:19 Nigayomogi: His left hand isn't still on his chest when the head shot is shown, anyway… 24 May 07, 05:18 viridian: if Akai was blasted in the head, shouldn't it just be a blown up mess??? 24 May 07, 05:17 viridian: we don't actually see that both hands are in his pockets. But I don't think you're theory requires that 24 May 07, 05:12 cmilano: when he was about to be shot in the head he put his hands in his pocket.. my theory is that he activated some device that bursts blood out of his forehead. this device is hidden beneath his hat ofc 24 May 07, 05:11 viridian: and then when he fell that hand could fall down (so its not up on page 5) 24 May 07, 05:10 viridian: the left hand which is not in our view was the one that was grabbing his chest 24 May 07, 05:10 viridian: were both hands in his pockets though?? we can only see that his right hand is in his pocket 24 May 07, 05:08 Nigayomogi: Oh, I see, page 4, he had his hand in his pockets, sorry... 24 May 07, 05:08 cmilano: remember the previous file when jodie asked for conan's cellphone? sms messages are saved on phone memory - he can simply insert his sim card to an identical phone 24 May 07, 05:06 Nigayomogi: @cmilano: He was grabbing his chest at the beginning of this chapter, though… 24 May 07, 05:06 Yuuko: Will akai put his cell phone on the fake body and let it burns along with body...doesn't that cell phone still have the message from akemi 24 May 07, 05:01 dika: woaa, thanks a lot!! I really appreciate that! =) 24 May 07, 04:57 cmilano: oh and also i assume both hands of the body are the only piece intact. the darn thing exploded right beside his face even his mom wouldn't be able to recognise that 24 May 07, 04:55 motzKID!: I guess, all hope are up thanks to cmilano's theory! now,as for me...I'm excited to see what happens next 24 May 07, 04:54 motzKID!: Ah,whoopsie..I guess I missed that part X0 24 May 07, 04:54 cmilano: YAY OUR HOPES ARE COMING ALIVE!!!!!!! GO ME! XD XD XD 24 May 07, 04:54 cmilano: that's what i was saying all along! he should be grabbing his injured chest in agony. he did that cos the body he set up had such pose as well 24 May 07, 04:53 motzKID!: @cmilano:good point.. 24 May 07, 04:53 Nigayomogi: @cmilano: ah, good point about the distraction caused by the patrol car! 24 May 07, 04:52 motzKID!: that's weird...in page 6,Akai's hands were BOTH inside his pockets..if a person was about to be killed,would he have the time to put his hand in his pockets? 24 May 07, 04:52 cmilano: when rena was looking somewhere else (gin and vodka did so too), akai switched the body swiftly. he put his cellphone in the body's jacket on purpose so FBIs would think that it was actually him. 24 May 07, 04:50 Nigayomogi: on Conan. 24 May 07, 04:50 Miyano-sama: 買ってくださって有難うございました 24 May 07, 04:50 Nigayomogi: I'm a bit worried that Gin should be observant enough to notice, too, though… Aoyama might change that panel in the tankoubon, like he did for the panel showing Kir using the lie detection technique 24 May 07, 04:49 cmilano: akai called the japanese cops before meeting up with rena to distract gin and vodka who were watching from distance via some camera attached to rena's choker. 24 May 07, 04:49 Someone: emmm..on page 5 and page 4 , akai's face was in the different direction? 24 May 07, 04:49 byul: thank you very much for yours scan. I wish Gosho will end up this story fast. I have been waiting so long. Akai is the best 24 May 07, 04:48 motzKID!: I think Gosho's just testing DC fans' ability in looking through the manga carefully.. 24 May 07, 04:48 byul: thank you very much for yours scan. I wish Gosho will end up this story fast. I have been waiting so long. Akai is the best 24 May 07, 04:47 Yuuko: but if it is Gosho's trick...doesn't it looks to obvious...the cropse in page 4 is definitely different from the one in page 5...unless rena has move the cropse and wipe out the blood beside his mouth 24 May 07, 04:46 motzKID!: Type it! -hoorah!- the Akai-is-alive fans would have to agree with ur theory 24 May 07, 04:46 Nigayomogi: Of course, making his fellow FBI agents believe he is truly dead would make it easier to convince the Org. that he's dead. 24 May 07, 04:45 cmilano: I have a theory that actually makes sense. it's pretty long. i don't know if i should type it here. 24 May 07, 04:42 Someone: eh...i don't understand Japanese so is Akai really died T____T I only look through the picture...I hope he doesn't died T_T 24 May 07, 04:41 cmilano: GOOD POINT! KUSUDA DID TOUCH CONAN'S CELLPHONE ANYWAY! 24 May 07, 04:40 Yuuko: the position his face lays is also different from page 4 to page 5... 24 May 07, 04:39 motzKID!: yeah,yeah! cmilano is like Holmes! 24 May 07, 04:39 cmilano: it is too suspicious. the only thing i can think of is because he wanted the world to know that he's dead from fingerprint analysis that he supposedly left intact - when he's really hiding (silly huh) 24 May 07, 04:37 Nigayomogi: Cmilano beat me. Good observation, that does make it look like a trick using the Kusuda's corpse. 24 May 07, 04:37 cmilano: his dying position is weird also. why would he slip his hands in his pants pocket? he was shot in the chest before that - he should have grabbed his chest in agony at least 24 May 07, 04:34 motzKID!: @cmilano:hmm...u have a good point..-thinks hard- -brain hurts- X0 24 May 07, 04:31 cmilano: if that's the case there should be at few the littlest bit of blood trace. but duh still i can't prove the matching fingerprints theory wrong! >< 24 May 07, 04:29 motzKID!: @cmilano: oh,you're right! Maybe it dropped out of his mouth already...? 24 May 07, 04:25 cmilano: i found something!! page 5 when rena was putting the bomb next to akai, his blood which was supposed to be coming out of his mouth wasn't there! another mystery? o_O 24 May 07, 04:21 viridian: that's my hope anyway :P 24 May 07, 04:20 viridian: it seems that Gosho did so much to kill him as to leave no doubt on the readers part that he really is dead...so of course its increasing likely that he's alive. Analyising the author technique thatis 24 May 07, 04:18 motzKID!: If only I ould donate a lot...-feels bad,really- 24 May 07, 04:15 Merar: It's really nice to see TRUE fans of this manga.. I feel like saying "thanks" is silly !! :-) 24 May 07, 04:14 Misztina: @Yuuko:Give me a high-five. :D 24 May 07, 04:14 viridian: thanks *so* much for the lengths you went to to get us all this chapter, Knightus! not sure I'm so happy to have seen it though...**very grateful all the same** 24 May 07, 04:14 cmilano: i won't be giving out any until the chapter is translated.. 24 May 07, 04:09 narn: you never know the reality of the fact until it's been proved :) 24 May 07, 04:08 Yuuko: remember...he also picked up conan's cell phone...which means there must also have his fingerprints on the cell phone 24 May 07, 04:08 kstar: Its all planned out x_X 24 May 07, 04:07 Yuuko: someone suggests that fingerprint is the BO guys who killed himself in file 598 24 May 07, 04:07 narn: hope is something like feather....